And what I get out of those statements is not that they don't want kids to have access to such material, but that they don't want anyone to have access to that material. That they believe any set-aside TLD means such material is somehow acceptable, and they don't want to concede that much.

Protecting kids is just a camel's nose towards blocking everybody entirely.

Thanks for posting these.

of COURSE it helps them censor. It makes censoring as easy as it can be, practically. Block all XXX domains and feel righteous that you've done your part in the war against nakedness and sex. While you're at it, apply lots of pressure to non XXX domain sites [children's underwear ads, art photography &c] to move into XXX territory so that you can ignore them more effectively.

I ask a lot of librarians "If there were such a thing as a perfect filter, would your opinion on filtering change?" I'm pretty sure mine wouldn't, but it's an interesting thought exercise.

Exactly, the XXX TLD makes blocking so easy that you don't need censorware companies anymore. No wonder they claim it won't work. 8-)

Lis: Right. They think the .XXX is going to hurt their attempts at legal prohibitions against such material for adults - rather than helping them marginalize such material.

Jessamyn: .XXX is a rating/labelling system - but it's a very crude one, not as good for censorship as the PICS-derived systems which have been around for a long time.

Florian: Remember, the Internet is international, there's plenty of countries which could ignore .XXX.

Seth, the Internet may be international, but the economy is not. In the end, the economy might win:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1499272,00.html

We'll see in a couple of days how effective the U.S.-led global Internet censorship efforts are.

as a member of the online adult industry here are my thoughts...

from a practical standpoint :
it may actually be a good idea, as a sort of pro-active measure. that is, move any content that may, in any way, be considered risque to my associated .xxx domain. i'll keep the .com site, but link out all the images to the .xxx domain. that way little johnny, who's parent's have bothered to turn on .xxx filtering, won't see anything naughty. this will surely be a non-trivial operation but should be able to be accomplished.

from a legal standpoint :
it makes no never mind. if the federal government decides that i'm a bad man for offering porn and should be in jail, saying "but looky i'm on .xxx" isn't really going to help much.

from a financial standpoint :
the only people who will benefit from this is the registrar for the .xxx tld. of course, most online porn companies can easily absorb the cost of buying a separate domain, but why should we need to?

from a philosophical standpoint :
it could be said that the pornography industry is now getting preferential, or at least segregated treatment. i don't think any business sector should get that kind of treatment, for better or for worse.

from a cynical standpoint :
what about a tld for all the religious crusaders out there called .god? that way i can put a filter to ignore their rants.